Oracle CorporationGundlach cites widening credit spreads on AI-linked debt and Oracle as the bond market rejects aggressive pricing, signaling financing/valuation stress.
DoubleLine Capital founder and CEO Jeffrey Gundlach said he wants to be "out of the epicenter" of the AI race, citing widening credit spreads and extreme valuations. Speaking on The Julia La Roche Show, Gundlach pointed to the S&P 500 Shiller CAPE ratio exceeding 42 as a historical indicator of negative real returns over the coming decade, and said debt linked to AI borrowing and corporate issuers like Oracle Corp. has seen visible spread widening as the bond market rejects aggressive pricing. "You're going to have fallout and losers in the AI, you know, race for the holy grail," Gundlach said. "I think we're close enough to there that I want to be out of the epicenter." He said he is recommending a portfolio of 30% in the Fortune 500 equal weighted index, 30% fixed income split evenly between low-risk core bonds and local-currency emerging market debt, 20% real assets split between physical gold and commodities, and 20% dry powder split between commercial real estate and flexible income. Gundlach also warned of systemic vulnerabilities in private credit, citing rating agency arbitrage that echoes structural flaws seen during the 2008 financial crisis with underwriters like Wells Fargo.
Oracle CorporationGundlach cites widening credit spreads on AI-linked debt and Oracle as the bond market rejects aggressive pricing, signaling financing/valuation stress.
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Wells Fargo & CompanyGundlach warns of rating agency arbitrage and structural flaws in private credit, naming Wells Fargo as an underwriter echoing 2008-era problems.